dYdX Treasury SubDAO Proposal & Discussion

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Summary

  • In response to the blog post by the dYdX Foundation, Steakhouse Financial would like to tender a proposal to create a treasury SubDAO. In this post, we share our views on treasury management and provide our initial financial assessment of dYdX to encourage community discussion on the dYdX Chain treasury.
  • As dYdX reaches the next stage of its evolution, we believe dYdX and the community should begin to plan funding the protocol’s growth initiatives and OpEx from revenues as much as possible, rather than relying on token issuance from the community treasury.
  • Currently, we think dYdX’s fees are over-indexed on rewards to staked token holders (i.e. paying for security), which currently constitute 100% of gross trading fees. This means that growth and OpEx spend are financed through token dilution, suppressing dYdX token price.
  • In our view, the community can benefit from reviewing capital allocation decisions between growth spend/incentives, security, and operating expenses to ensure sustainable financial resourcing for protocol growth.
  • We welcome feedback on our analysis and proposal to create a treasury subDAO to support a more economically sustainable future for the dYdX community. Our intention thereafter is to follow up with a formal proposal including scope and our terms of engagement.

Steakhouse’s General View on Treasury Management

The house view at Steakhouse Financial is that ‘treasury management’ is a subset of the finance function whose purpose is to collaborate with the operations team in order to achieve an organization’s business objectives. Such activities typically include financial planning & analysis (FP&A), financial reporting, and capital allocation in partnership with the leadership team (internal and external). Treasury management falls in the latter capital allocation category (external) and its strategies should be simple, and serve to support the operations of the organization.

We believe that decentralized projects achieve economic success over the long term by improving their sustainable ROI (Return on Investment) on tokens spent. The treasury management function is a crucial part of ensuring that issuance of incremental token is put towards generating the maximum amount of sustainable revenues.

Below, we outline our framework for maximizing ROI for projects at different maturity stages. With protocol-market fit established in the on-chain perps market, dYdX has entered or is entering the expansion and scale-up phase. During this phase, the suitable financial strategy in our view would prioritize funding initiatives organically through protocol fees over token issuance, the latter of which is the most expensive form of financing. While this shift won’t happen overnight, the objective of increasing internal funding over token funding guides our capital allocation proposal for dYdX and the treasury SubDAO.

Protocol Economics Overview

A leading decentralized perps exchange

Perpetual futures are a popular derivative useful for traders looking to take directional views on the market as well as hedge other financial exposures more efficiently and on a rolling basis relative to other trading instruments. Traditional centralized exchanges often offer deep liquidity from exposure to many market participants, but at the cost of counterparty risk in having to hold either collateral or margin positions on a centralized venue. dYdX’s key value proposition relative to centralized exchanges is its security, guaranteed by a strong distributed network of validators, allowing users to use perps in a self-custodial manner without sacrificing access to liquidity or long-tail trading pairs.

Competition is intensifying

dYdX is the OG perps protocol and has generally defended market share relatively well in a fragmenting market. The exception has been against Hyperliquid which has been growing rapidly from enabling a smooth user experience and a highly anticipated airdrop.

The Hyperliquid L1 is custom built with emphasis on high performance. Currently the token launch and airdrop may mean users metrics could be inflated. Sustainable level is still TBD after the token launches. As of June 2024, dYdX (v4) has lost its volume leadership position to Hyperliquid: dYdX has ~25% market share of Perps trading volumes vs. Hyperliquid’s 36% (Source: Artemis.xyz).


Further, our suspicion is that dYdX is used more by institutional players with higher tickets and volumes vs. Hyperliquid which seems more widely used by retail:

  • dYdX has <1000 unique traders, with average trading volume per user at ~$1.5m.
  • Hyperliquid has >10,000 unique traders, with average trading volume per user ~$150k.

There are pros and cons to being more institutional-focused. Pros are potentially higher quality of fees (i.e. institutional demand is likely less fickle/cyclical than retail), but higher reliance on a small number of users could make fees more volatile, should key participants decide to trade on another platform.

dYdX’s P&L Construction

dYdX earns gross trading fees from taker volumes, and reimburses market makers as a reward for providing liquidity to the order book. The net figure, ‘gross trading fees’, are essentially the protocol’s revenues.

Expenses wise, there is a growth spend to reward LPs and traders, usually paid out in DYDX tokens (i.e. source of token dilution). It is worth noting that this figure has been gradually declining following various governance proposals (e.g. proposal to reduce LP rewards in favor of paying out maker fee reimbursements).

As a sovereign L1 chain, dYdX also pays its validators (staked token holders) for security. This expense has been the single largest cost item for the protocol, currently equating to 100% of gross trading fees. As such, gross margin, which we define as net trading fees after payment for security, has been running consistently negative, with operating expenses needing to be financed through token sales.

In the above illustrative P&L, we make simplifying assumptions to facilitate the discussion points:

  • Neglecting DYDX rewards for stakers (minimal)
  • Excludes investor unlocks, while grants to Operations subDAO / Foundation and team unlocks are ‘operating expenses’
  • Assuming LP incentives and trading incentives are ‘growth’, for historical view we rolled the dollar amounts for simplicity
  • Trading fees and security rewards taken from mintscan

Following our schema for dYdX’s business model, a few insights emerge:

  • Gross trading fee generation is healthy despite market share losses
    • Investments should be capable of offsetting DYDX dilution to cover for growth and protocol development
  • Excluding investor unlocks, there is a significant degree of overhang from team allocations that we are accounting for as ‘operating expenses’ on the premise that they are there to reward long-term contributions
  • There has been significant investment in growth through trading & LP incentives but these have not been able to stymie market share losses to new entrants
    • It is worth calibrating stable market share once token generation events for competitors come and go to avoid overspending if there is a whiplash effect, once the TGE-anticipatory demand wears off
    • We need to understand the sensitivity of taker fees to incentives before making any business model recommendations
  • Pure protocol OpEx for development and maintenance is within reasonable ARR ranges for peer DeFi protocols (Aave at 20-30% ARR, Maker DAO at ±40% ARR)
  • Security is over-indexed and is currently soaking up 100% of gross trading fees (i.e. 200% of net trading fees after accounting for above-the-line growth investments)
    • We need to understand the sensitivity that must be possible to incentivize ‘enough’ security while reducing the amount of trading fees that go to validators

The important business model adjustment to make, in our view, is to find a sustainable level of cost of revenue (growth) and cost of goods (security) such that in the steady state, the protocol can grow at a healthy gross margin and accrue a positive cash surplus.

The below comparison is an illustrative (fake numbers) schema. Conceptually, the protocol can justify going through a phase of negative gross margin to subsidize user acquisition. However, if its cost of goods equivalent (security) is too high, when growth investments eventually taper off, the protocol reaches a long-term unsustainable end-point. There is another confounding factor, in that the growth investments are all dilutive to token holders, so if they generate a lower rate of return over surplus relative to the dilution, it is technically value dilutive to all token holders.

The goal should be to calibrate the cost of goods today, such that in a future when growth investments taper off and a steady state is found, the protocol can generate a sustainable gross margin surplus.

On the tokenomics side, between investor & team unlocks (which began in December 2023) and the growth spend that is financed by the DYDX token, circulating supply has increased meaningfully. It is worth noting that as of August 1, 2024, 73.3% (366,666,667) of investor and team tokens have been unlocked and 91.6M DYDX (i.e. 9.16% of max supply) will unlock in the next 12 months. In terms of community spending, the community treasury currently contains 102.0M vested DYDX that can be spent through a dYdX Chain governance proposal and 64.4M DYDX (i.e. 6.44% of max supply) will vest in the community treasury over the next 12 months.

The engine for driving protocol revenues to the protocol are trading fees that users pay to enter into positions. These gross revenues must then be balanced between capital allocation decisions. The overarching categories of allocation are:

  1. Reinvesting for growth
  2. Returning capital to token holders
  3. Accumulating surplus

As part of these, the decision space that dYdX has includes:

  1. Growth of the protocol

    • Grow the top of funnel for generating more trading fees
  2. Cost-of-goods for the network

    • Find the optimal rate for compensating validators (staked token holders) without compromising decentralization
  3. Operating expenses

    • Fund development, maintenance and operating expenditures for innovation

Today, this capital allocation decision is currently being allocated as follows.

  1. Growth initiatives are typically invested through DYDX dilution

    • This is a reasonable investment if the return to excess profits is greater than the dilution incurred (accretive), otherwise it is net dilutive to existing DYDX holders
  2. Security is likely over-indexed

    • 100% of protocol fees are redirected to DYDX stakers in exchange for ‘security’ writ large
    • Any Treasury subDAO should lead research to determine what the optimal level of security is and find a suitable level of compensation
    • Roughly speaking, we can consider this an indirect ‘COGS’ rather than below-the-line interest expense, as security is paramount for dYdX to generate trading fees, i.e. each $1 of trading fees is generated because there is some amount of security behind it
  3. Operating expenses are similarly dilutive

    • For the purpose of simplicity, we consider three major constituents as community treasury funding recipients that provide stewardship, infrastructure, maintenance, growth and innovation:
      • dYdX Foundation
      • Operations subDAO
      • Grants

Can and should dYdX seed an endowment to cover for operating costs going forward?

The theory of the endowment model is that in the long-run, operating expenses could be funded indefinitely from a Treasury that can pay for operating expenses out of the endowment return. The ideal end-state would be that the endowment could cover the spending needs of the DAO at around 4-5% of the endowment’s size. Currently, dYdX’s annualized operating expenses are approximately $30m, including grants, subDAOs and the Foundation.

A reasonable target return for endowments is 7-8%, 4-5% to cover operational expenses, 2-3% for inflation, and 0.5-1% for administrative expenses. We look to Angle’s stUSD as an illustrative example for 30D trailing APR of 8.24%, as it transparently and efficiently offers the larger of DeFi lending rates or SOFR, with strong liquidity guarantees enforced by programmatic asset-liability management modules. Full disclosure, Steakhouse Financial advises Angle on the asset-liability management of USDA.

This means that the endowment target size should be approximately $30m / 8.24% = $364m. Needless to say, this is an extremely ambitious target for endowment size.

We believe that the solution here should be to find a source for seeding the endowment without causing undue pressure on token holder dilution, while feeding in gross profit into the endowment that grantees can draw from. Structurally, you could enact this with optimistic governance-type contracts, such as the Lido EasyTrack model, to allow grantees to pull from pre-approved budget limits while allowing protocol gross margin to flow into the Treasury contract continuously after paying for security.

The structure of this endowment could be wrapped in a Cayman Foundation, based on the recommendation from the dYdX Foundation, with estimated setup costs in the $50k range at a maximum, after accounting for director fees. We have experience navigating and setting up structures of this kind for various protocols, with external directors and a line of accountability to DAO token holders through the Foundation’s articles of association.

No management fee is necessary for a minimalist setup of this nature that follows the benchmark.

Can dYdX seed a smaller, tactical, endowment with 2-3 years of operating expenses?

The problem is more solvable, though all of the considerations regarding dYdX’s revenue distribution model remain urgent to solve. Assuming a revised revenue distribution model, dYdX can likely continue to fund operations with minimal dYdX token dilution, assuming a larger portion of the unstaked DYDX tokens in the community treasury are staked.
The exact amount of DYDX tokens to diversify the treasury will be dependent on the timing of the operating expenses, revenue forecast, and risk appetite of the dYdX community. Given the significant cash flow distributed to dYdX stakers, staking the dYdX remains an attractive albeit risky strategy from a principle perspective.

Ultimately, the treasury strategy will be highly dependent on whether dYdX seeks to build an endowment or an operating organization. The former would have higher risk and returns, targeting 7-8%+, while the latter would take minimal risk and target yield to match SOFR (currently 5.35% and anticipated to fall) with a high degree of liquidity to support operational flexibility.

Regardless of the amount of DYDX tokens to be diversified, we would recommend reaching out to token holders unlocking in the coming months to persuade them to remain committed to the project through growth and innovation and participate in future upside.

How should dYdX align its tokenomics for growth?

We are of the opinion that fundamentals ought to be strong for any tokenomics changes to be long-term beneficial to a project. We approach the projects that we are involved in with the overarching objective of helping drive attractive long-term token performance via sustainable ROI improvements.

At the high level for tokenomics, this means instituting a ROI orientation on incentive spending, conservative treasury management that provides multi-year runway, and finally (should there be surplus capital), evaluating various value accrual strategies that are suitable for the protocol and its jurisdictions.

About Steakhouse Financial

A short introduction to the entity or individual who is interested in becoming a member of the subDAO

Steakhouse Financial is a boutique advisory firm that provides financial consulting services to a variety of DAOs, Stablecoins, and other crypto projects. Steakhouse helps organizations harness the power of public blockchains by designing on-chain financial infrastructure, creating blockchain-based financial reporting, and providing strategic advisory services tailored to the needs of the client. We are leaders in financial advisory and are known for creating some of the first widely used blockchain-based financial statements and financial reports dating back to early 2021.

Key information regarding previous experience in overseeing financial assets (especially in DeFi) and/or managing other DAOs’ treasury

We actively report on and monitor MakerDAO’s >$2.5bn RWA portfolio and protocol financials, ENS’s >$100mm endowment, as well as Arbitrum’s RWA portfolio. We are currently organizing the largest ever RFP for tokenized public securities products which will seek to allocate up to $1bn of these assets as collateral for MakerDAO’s Dai. We also perform comprehensive commercial risk and legal assessments for private credit transactions.

Proposed key results, performance reporting, and its cadence

We helped drive Maker’s average earnings assets from ~30% in Q4 2022 to >90% in mid 2023, and soon to be 100% (target Q3/Q4), driving >$100mm in incremental revenue for MakerDAO: https://dune.com/steakhouse/makerdao. We also helped rationalize Lido DAO’s LDO curve LP incentive program, saving >$100mm in annualized LDO expenses while maintaining in excess of $150m in order book depth at less than 1%.

We are happy to partner and collaborate with the dYdX Foundation and Operations SubDAO to develop KPIs, discuss operating results, and build out financial & KPI reporting to aid the community in making capital allocation decisions.

Further relevant contributions:

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Hey @Steakhouse team,

Welcome to the dYdX community and forum.

Thank you for your informative note and proposal.

Your insights on treasury management strategy, current financial considerations, the proposal for a treasury management subDAO, and token economics alignment seem well thought out and demonstrate a first principles approach.

I look forward to your conversation with the community and advancing this workstream.

:building_construction: :construction_worker_man: :1234: :abacus: :balance_scale: :classical_building: :mechanical_arm:


To our dear community,
Discussions around this initiative may spark lively and sometimes intense debates. The dYdX Ops subDAO has thoughtfully edited and shared a dYdX code of conduct. Please review it or direct others to it if you have any questions or concerns.

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Excellent and objective analysis of the project’s situation. I believe it is necessary to thoroughly analyze the reality in order to fully understand the challenges the project faces. It is not easy to attribute the reasons why the project started losing market share from the last quarter of 2023 onwards, which I think is somewhat hidden because the data remains steady. However, I believe the loss of market share is a trend that it has not been able to reverse.

I don’t fully agree with the statement that the project has found its market fit, as that would imply sustained client growth that would need to be accelerated, but I don’t think we’re at that point yet. It’s complicated to analyze a derivatives trading project, as clients often face significant difficulties in maintaining sustainable trading. Solving the nature of this situation is challenging, though it is necessary to find efficient and recurring marketing levers. I believe there are models that can help make trading much more sustainable for these clients. I believe there are opportunities to find new business lines that could demonstrate greater sustainability and a stronger revenue base for the project, as we have been suggesting.

Building a treasury that serves as a foundation for operating expenses is certainly an excellent starting point. However, I think the first step would be a deep analysis of the project’s inertia to explain the main difficulties behind the loss of market share. In this regard, this contribution to the forum is an excellent starting point and holds great value for the project.

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Thank you @Steakhouse for putting forward this comprehensive proposal for dYdX’s treasury management. I agree that establishing a dedicated entity to manage the DAO’s treasury is crucial. In particular, we need an entity that can take a bird’s-eye view and implement strategies aimed at increasing the long-term value of dYdX tokens.

  1. DAO as a Company Analogy:
    I support the analogy of viewing the DAO as a company, with tokens as shares, dydx.trade as the product, and current protocol revenue as dividends. This framework helps in applying traditional financial wisdom to our decentralized context.

  2. Current Issues:

    • The practice of allocating all revenue to dividends (validator rewards) is unsustainable, especially given the current growth rate.
    • Financing operational expenses through continuous token issuance leads to dilution, harming long-term token value.
  3. Strategic Focus:
    While the proposal touches on this, I believe we need to emphasize that the primary goal should be increasing dydx token value in the end. This involves:

    • Strategically reducing expenses
      • What is the appropriate incentive for traders
      • Are we paying too much to MM or professional bots? etc.
    • Focusing intensively on revenue growth
      • How to increase the liquidity
      • How to increase the user base etc.
    • Balancing immediate returns (staking rewards) with long-term value accrual
      Validators argue from their perspective, traders from theirs, and stakers from theirs. Therefore, I feel there’s a need for an entity that can make judgments based on whether decisions will lead to long-term token value appreciation.
  4. Leadership and Execution:
    We need a leadership structure that can:

    • Make strategic decisions on resource allocation
    • Execute plans to increase revenue
    • Manage expenses effectively
    • Regularly report to and engage with the community
  5. Metrics and Accountability:
    We should establish clear KPIs for the treasury management team, with regular reviews and the possibility of leadership changes if targets are consistently missed.

  6. Gradual Transition:
    Any significant changes, especially to the reward structure, should be implemented gradually to avoid shocking the system or alienating current participants.

In conclusion, while I support the overall direction of the proposal, I believe we need to place even more emphasis on strategic growth and value creation of dYdX token. The treasury management entity should act as a strategic CFO for the DAO, balancing short-term rewards with long-term value accrual.

I look forward to further discussion on these points and hope we can refine this proposal to set dYdX on a path of sustainable growth and increased value for all token holders!

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Large node operator here. Very glad to see this work on improving capital allocation. A sorely needed effort. Would like to address some key points from this post and then on follow-up goals.

  1. Strong agree that spend on growth so far has been too high in amount - its also poorly structured. Right now token holders / stakers / validators are being hit with double whammy of aggressive dilution from rewards to traders AND downward sell pressure as those traders proceed to sell rewards asap. Think its clear that using the DYDX token as main reward token here has proven suboptimal for all parties with vested interest in DYDX success longer than 30 days (or however long each epoch lasts).

  2. Don’t fully agree with framing of “security” as a “cost”. Understand it from perspective of building treasury surplus / the treasury is the “owner.” But ultimately DYDX token stakers / validators are the ultimate end owners of the software here. The USDC accruing to token stakers / validators is “Owners Earnings / Dividends” - it is certainly not a cost to them. So income statement and balance sheet should really be framed from DYDX token POV given it is UBO for all practical purposes.

On moving forward:

A) Trader rewards programs “growth” would be much better if USDC was used as reward token instead of DYDX token. Don’t see an issue with reducing validator rewards if it means halting all emissions of DYDX token for “growth.” Growth is worth investing in. And so far using DYDX as reward token has achieved net effect of diluting long term holders (validators) to reward short term holders (traders who sell their rewards asap). Not good.

B) Stakers and validators are already down bad (see above). Anyone left at this point is basically ride or die DYDX. Just reducing USDC rewards outright would be another gut punch. No more, please.

So believe strongly that any reduction of USDC being paid to validators should be paired with increase in DYDX token emissions. Investment in this cohort of long term supporters would go a country mile. Certainly would not be a “cost” to anyone either.

C) Would the proposed Treasury concept here be in addition to the Foundation that’s been funded already? Forgive me but i’m not sure I understand why another entity is needed here. Especially if its going to be removing value flows from direct protocol level into a separate pool from protocol-level value flows going on here.

DYDX Trading Inc already has its mandate to develop tech and def has the funds to do it. The parties are bangers. So tech dev is not a cost that needs funding like other DeFI protocols with use treasuries to fund tech dev - see LDO, MKR, AAVE.

Also DYDX Foundation already has mandate and funding for marketing and BD. So why do we need another function for “growth” that’s going to redirect funds away from the protocol? Instead of keeping all this value in the protocol and reinvesting into growth directly all onchain (like suggested dydx <> usdc rewards swap).

So, would certainly like a bit more clarity here and input from other holders of DYDX. Other vested community members too.

Will add that Lido as an example is very concerning. Have lots of respect for Stakehouse analytics work on Dune. And have no idea how involved they are in LDO governance so pls dont take this as any direct dig at Stakehouse (<3).

LDO’s “treasury” has been SO poorly run that although as a business Lido absolutely PRINTs revenue as a de-facto MONOPOLY in the LARGEST market in all of DeFi (eth staking), they somehow manage to operate at a LOSS. Negative profit frfr.

LDO token would be on Mars rn (like AAVE) if they managed to run even at 10% profit margins, let alone 80% + (where they should be tbb). So lido has been one of the worst displays of governance DeFi has to offer. Lets pls not go down that same path. It only spells doom and destruction.

Thanks all for discussion on all this very important work.

Fin/

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On behalf of the PRO Delegators’ validator, we extend our sincere thanks for the rigorous effort and commitment reflected in your post.

At Govmos, we’re fortunate to have financial experts on our team, which is why we took the time to carefully review every detail of your extensive analysis. After evaluating the proposed ratios and forecasts, we found that our conclusions align closely with yours. Your insights are both rational and realistic.

One point in particular caught our attention:

The important business model adjustment to make, in our view, is to find a sustainable level of cost of revenue (growth) and cost of goods (security) such that in the steady state, the protocol can grow at a healthy gross margin and accrue a positive cash surplus.

We fully agree with this statement, but we believe a progressive approach is essential. Introducing a Treasury sub-DAO and allocating some proceeds to it is an excellent idea, one we will support. However, adjusting these economics will inevitably impact both validator revenue and staker incentives, as their investments in dYdX tokens were made based on the current risk-reward balance. We concur that there is room to grow protocol revenue and that, if managed wisely, the protocol treasury could bring long-term net benefits to stakers.

Our only suggestion is to conduct further studies on how these changes might affect security aspects. To assist in this area, we’d like to share our thoughts on the topic.

Analysis of the Staker Economics:

Understanding the potential impact of reducing security allocations requires an examination of the current status, framed by long-term trends:

Source: https://analytics.smartstake.io/dydx/stats#staking

Looking at nearly a year’s worth of data, we observe that delegate growth has slowed since February, likely due to increased competition in the decentralized perpetual exchange market. However, the percentage of supply staked has remained steady, suggesting that this competition hasn’t yet affected overall staker perception. The average delegation has also remained relatively stable, reinforcing this assessment.

Yet, we notice that the 25% supply staked may represent a plateau. Further reductions to the stakers’ reward bucket should be approached cautiously to avoid turning this plateau into a reversal. We recommend that the sub-DAO be explicitly mandated to adjust proceed reallocations in a way that maintains the chain’s overall security market above this 25% threshold.

Analysis of Validator Costs:

Another critical aspect of reallocating proceeds to a treasury DAO is the immediate reduction in validator revenue, which is further exacerbated by the centralized distribution of voting power.

Gini Coefficient 0.568629
Nakamoto Index 4
#1 VP Equals N Bottom Validators 29
Top 100 delegate stake share 84.01%
# of Consensus Validators 60
Validators below average Voting Power 44
Last Active Validator Stake 380391 $DYDX/ $322913
Median/Weighted Median Commission 5% /5%

Source: https://analytics.smartstake.io/dydx/stats#stats

Looking at the history and also comparing with other chains in the ecosystem, we can highlight some trends that should be considered:

Source: https://analytics.smartstake.io/dydx/stats#vp

Decentralization has improved over time, but more progress is needed to match historical leaders like the Cosmos Hub. The chain still shows significant gaps in validator revenue, as reflected in the stake distribution charts. For a median validator with a 2M DYDX delegation, a 5% fee, and the provided figure of $50.2M in annualized security revenue, this validator would earn approximately $21,000 annually. With monthly operational costs around $700, many smaller validators with delegation below 1M DYDX are operating at near-loss levels today. Further reductions in the security budget could make their situations even more precarious.

Conclusion:

We propose two paths to foster the new treasury while maintaining a sustainable level of security budgeting. The first path would involve raising the minimum validator fee to 6% as we proportionally reduce the security budget by 20%. The second path could explore a progressive approach tied to revenue growth, allowing for a gradual reduction in security allocations while keeping validator and staker revenues stable.

At Govmos, we are open to either option and recognize that other viable paths may exist. We look forward to hearing feedback from the proposers, the Foundation, and the entire validator cohort.

To conclude, we fully support the creation of this sub-DAO. We believe now is the right time to foster this initiative so that it’s fully operational when market momentum returns. On behalf of the PRO Delegators’ team, we will gladly support the on-chain proposal.


Thank you for reading,
We look forward to the community’s feedback.
Govmos.
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@Govmos appreciate the validator’s perspective.
Thanks for taking the time to document it.

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We generally support the proposal to establish a Treasury SubDAO for dYdX, as reducing reliance on token emissions for operating expenses and validator rewards is crucial for stabilizing the DYDX token price. Transitioning to revenue-based funding is a smart long-term strategy. Key positives include reducing emissions to create a healthier economic environment, establishing an endowment to lower financial risk, and optimizing revenue allocation to ensure efficient resource use for sustainable growth. However, we would like to ask a few questions and highlight aspects that require further attention.

Validator rewards and reducing emissions
While reducing token emissions to decrease inflation is beneficial, there is a risk of decreasing validator incentives too sharply. Validators currently receive significant rewards through token issuance, and simply cutting back on these rewards could lead to participant churn or short-term unprofitability. A gradual reduction of rewards or offering alternative incentives may help keep validators engaged while transitioning to a more sustainable model.

Attracting new users
To maintain and grow trading revenue, simply improving the protocol may not be enough. dYdX operates in an increasingly competitive environment, and attracting new users will be key to driving revenue. Improving user experience, marketing strategies, and targeted incentives or partnerships could play a role in boosting the user base and trading volumes. Without a clear focus on user acquisition, there is a risk that trading volumes may stagnate or decline.

Risks of declining revenue
The proposal addresses reducing reliance on token emissions, but what happens if trading volumes drop or there’s a market downturn? Declining revenue could significantly impact the protocol’s ability to cover operating expenses, which could result in long-term unprofitability. A plan or reserve fund will provide financial security and stabilize rewards during periods of declining revenue, reducing the risk of validator churn.

Our vision:
Focus on user growth and liquidity: Attracting new users and improving liquidity is essential for sustaining revenue growth. Developing more concrete strategies for user acquisition, such as competitive conditions for traders, loyalty programs, or partnerships with external platforms, will be crucial for consistent revenue growth.

Transparency and regular reporting: The SubDAO should have a clear structure for transparency and accountability. Regular updates on financial status, performance metrics, and decision-making processes will be critical for building trust within the community. Establishing clear KPIs for the SubDAO’s performance is essential to ensure that the new structure is working effectively.

Gradual transition to new reward models: Changing validator rewards too quickly could lead to participant churn and short-term unprofitability. We recommend a phased approach to transitioning from token emissions to revenue-based rewards, allowing the network and its participants time to adjust. This will help prevent validator loss and maintain network security during the transition.

We fully support the direction of this proposal, as it addresses key challenges dYdX faces in terms of long-term financial sustainability. For this proposal to succeed, careful management of validator incentives, user growth, and revenue risks will be essential. We look forward to continuing the discussion and contributing to the further development of these ideas.

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Appreciate the kind words and looking forward to discussing more with the community!

Thank you for the kind words! When we say PMF, we are referring to the fact that dYdX has proven that perp-DEXs are a viable product category with ~$1.4 trillion in volume LTD by itself, according to DefiLlama. Indeed there remains a major opportunity for dYdX to drive true PMF in the form of high customer retention, satisfaction, and loyalty driving sustainably higher cycle-adjusted fees and volumes.

We certainly agree with your sentiment regarding the loss of market share, and believe further analysis is needed to fully understand the underlying drivers. Certainly the competitive pressures from Hyperliquid and the anticipated airdrop are a major factor - we are eager to see how the market reacts post-airdrop as various metrics and KPIs typically diminish significantly. However, many protocols are starting to do multiple ‘seasons’ of airdrops to provide a ‘soft-landing’ of sorts to the token price; i.e. so it doesn’t dump immediately post-airdrop.

We agree with the sentiment regarding DYDX value accrual and working towards building a sustainable and successful project and ecosystem. Of course, the financial aspects are but one piece of the puzzle and we look forward to discussing with other users, community members, and investors in the ecosystem to better understand dYdX’s market positioning and how the market is anticipated to evolve.

We may have to agree to disagree on this one - we view security as a cost and not a capital return primarily because the dYdX chain would cease to function without a minimum viable security threshold being reached - otherwise there would be an incentive from a malicious actor to attack the chain and steal the collateral. If security was not a prerequisite for dYdX chain remaining a going concern, then we would agree with you.

Yes that is correct - the motivations from the Foundation are described here. To summarize, there is a stated desire to establish tax and regulatory certainty with regards to DAO assets, develop a treasury staking program to stake a portion of the DYDX funding received by the community treasury to dYdX Chain validators, assist with diversifying a portion of the DYDX in the community treasury into uncorrelated assets, and advise the DAO on financial planning, funding, and operational support.

We appreciate the kind words on our Dune analytics work - transparency is a core value at Steakhouse and we strive to encourage it with our clients - many of whom share that same value.

Every crypto organization has different financial objectives, with nearly every protocol reinvesting heavily into growth through internal and external investments and operating at a significant loss on a GAAP basis. Steakhouse is certainly in the pro-growth category, but we focus specifically on sustainable growth.

In the case of Lido, we analyzed the effectiveness of the stETH/ETH curve LDO liquidity incentive mechanism and were able to reduce liquidity incentives by >95% while actually increasing stETH market depth at 2%. This had the effect of reducing annualized LDO expenses by >$100mm (denoted by the green bars below).

Though Lido, like every crypto protocol, has a long way to go to fully realize its potential, we believe the trend in protocol operating margin is clearly positive. There are certainly arguments to be made between focusing on growth or profitability, but such decisions are up to the DAO. Our role as a service provider is to help token holders understand the trade-offs, opportunities, and risks of the paths in front of them - but ultimately the decision of which path to go down is up to the token holders themselves.

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Thank you @Steakhouse for the detailed proposal I personally think a more active treasury management will be beneficial to the protocol. As Operations Lead of the Ops subDAO I am happy to support any new dYdX subDAO starting out, so feel free to reach out.

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As a previous Lido contributor, I can attest to Steakhouse’s capabilities in financial strategy and treasury management.

As a dydx staker, I fully support the implementation of this proposal.

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